>> i think to -- i think as oscar wild, to paraphrase it, to lose one "a" to lose two "as" would be regrettable. i'm sure some viewers will correct me exactly on that. but to lose the first day was not that significant. it was basically the ratings agencies being grumbling and unpleasant, or at least one of them. if it came to losing a second one or a slight notch down or a plus or a minus or whatever -- >> right. >> -- that would be sending a very serious tone. that would be saying hang on. the u.s. potentially has a dysfunctionality in its budget process that even a real crisis can't deal with. now, we're a long way from that. and i'm not suggesting for one moment, but it's something to bear in mind as we go -- or as you go -- we all go over the cliff. >> yeah. holding our noses, hoping for a deal at least to avoid that. richard, thank you very much. appreciate it. >>> they are unlikely heroes of world war ii. >> they were over 1 million pigeons enlisted in the second world war. all of them played a part in the war, and they saved many lives in some heroic acts. so it's a story that should be